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Subject-Object Interview

Also known as: SOI

Depth · what it can open●●●○3 — emotional
Holding · facilitation4 — specialist
Trust · group readiness★any
Disclosure · what is sharedrequired

Kegan's research-grade developmental interview: ~60–90 minutes of structured conversation around prompts (angry, anxious, success, torn…) through which a trained interviewer assesses how a person currently makes meaning — what they can look AT (object) versus what still looks THROUGH them (subject). Used in coaching and research to locate a developmental center of gravity and to make growth edges discussable.

Prerequisites

  • Voluntary, informed participation — the interview goes where the person's live material is
Hold with care
  • Stage language is easily misused as ranking; results describe meaning-making structure, never worth or potential
  • Interpretation without training produces confident nonsense — this is a certified-skill instrument

Practical

Time
60-90 min + 60 landing
Group
1–1 · individual
Settings
in-person, online
Materials
Certified/trained SOI interviewer; prompt cards
Mechanisms
feedback-mirroring, narrative-identity
Change scope
state · one-off

Instructions

Where
mindsatwork.com
Availability
In the source document — the instructions live inside the material linked, on its terms

Source link checked 29 Aug 2026 — unchanged since we recorded it on 28 Aug 2026

This directory describes and points home; the instructions stay with the people who made them.

Origin

Robert Kegan and colleagues (Lahey, Souvaine, Goodman, Felix) — Constructive-developmental psychology (Subject-Object theory); 'A Guide to the Subject-Object Interview' (1988)

In this directory via IDG Phase 2 Research Report & Toolkit (2022)

Related: Immunity to Change Map (pairs-with)

Mentioned in the Phase 2 Toolkit as the measurement instrument of the ITC family. The clearest non-clinical example of holding 4: the exercise is just a conversation; the competence is entirely in the holder.

status: checked · added 2026-08-25